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Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
sickids
gurl |
Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
My husband and I are trying to both get clean from meth because
we both realize how damaging and horrific the effects can be.
Here is my question though. My husband seems to think that we
should be able to still drink every once in a while seems how
neither of us have ever had a problem with alcohol. Last night
we went to a barbeque at my sister in laws house and he drank a
few with her husband. Which I got sort of upset about. I
wouldn't kiss him or make love to him last night because I was
so angry. Was I wrong for being so hateful towards him.
I feel that it has to be all or nothing. I guess that's just how
I am. But, he is afraid if he jumps into the deep end without
wading first he'll drown. In other words, is it ok when you are
beginning your recovery to stop one thing at a time and progress
to full recovery later being free of all substances?
I am soooooooo scared this is going to destroy the happiness we
share in our relationship and divorce is not an option, because
we both come from families of divorce and are committed to
breaking the cycle! Should I make a compromise and see if he
slowly lets go of it all or should I give him an ultimatum to
stop everything NOW!??? |
Replies... |
imlost
inky |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
It isn't your recovery to
work- it is his.
All you can do is fix you.
I will say though as a voice of experience, be very cautious
jumping into another substance. It is too easy to substitute
addictions- and it is way too easy to use alcohol to run from
life.
My husband has been on a cycle of something for all of his adult
life.
What began as alcoholism went to meth went to pot went back to
meth went back to booze.
If nothing changes then you can bet nothing will change.
I find for me the best way is head on, clean mind leads to clean
living. Garbage in, garbage out.
It is hard sometimes but for me, it really is the best way.
It isn't for you to control. All you can do is voice your
opinion. Ultimately, it is his choice -
I hope he chooses wisely.
Alcohol sucks |
mtgl
7771 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I agree. I had no idea
that my husband was substituting different substances for his
relief. Etoh, pot, cocaine, loratab, etoh, finally meth and that
took him down. But if he didn't have one available he would do
the other. They taught my husband that in recovery that one
drink will set off your brain into reacting so if it doesn't
stop with one or two drinks then it can eventually lead to other
things. My husband knows that to stay clean and sober he can
never drink again. (and like you said he has never had "a
problem with alcohol") |
Penel0pe |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
ETOH... someone's been
working in the medical field!!
I agree - work your program - take care of your own
recovery.
For me, getting loaded on anything doesn't work out, so beer
would constitute a relapse in my program. Different people have
different opinions on this subject.
For me personally, beer would be a ticket back to the baggie, I
am sure of that. Been there, done that! |
Indiana
shedevil |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
sickidsgurl
Through personal experience, if you give an ultimatum then
please be prepared to follow through with it. I learned that the
addict will not take ultimatums seriously. They view them as
empty threats.
Also, they will resent you for trying to control them. If you
want the addict to "wake up and smell the coffee" then try
working on your own stuff. Take the focus off of him so he can't
use your actions as an excuse to use.
This can be very effective. Especially if he can't blame you for
his issues. He can then only accept responsibility for his own
actions. |
forget
suzette |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I would say yeah, sure,
have a beer.
....I don't like booze, so I can have it if I want it. I just
don't want it.
since I'm not counting the days in between beers.
.....and I could care less when that opportunity presents
itself.....it's a preference.
HOWEVER.
....If I DO have that drink. I gotta MAKE SURE I can't get to
any speed.
booze lowers inhibitions.
.....I call it the "WTF drug" because whatever you shouldn't be
doing becomes WTF! lets do it.
so there you have it.
good luck. |
sickids
gurl |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Thanks ya'll. I
guess there are a lot of different opinions out there. Tonight I
asked him ( not ordered ) him to please not drink at least for
tonight, he agreed not to. And tomorrow i will ask him again. I
think he understands how important this is to US, not just me
not just him but us as a married couple.
I do agree though about focusing more on my own addiction then
his. But, as a married couple for either of us to succeed it
will be easier if both of us have the same plan to reach our
goals as a couple. I will talk more to him about this tomorrow.
Thanks all, but I still am not sure exactly what to say when I
do approach him with the subject...?? |
vctry7 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I am not an alcoholic,
but my husband is. Therefore, through the years I never drank
because he couldn't. I told him I would not live with a drunk.
My parents were drunks, my first husband was a drunk. So, he did
not drink. He knew I would leave in a millisecond. Mind you,
this was before meth. We smoked pot, which kept us in the drug
lifestyle, which led to meth. We both got hooked on meth.
I do not drink now for 2 reasons instead of just 1. I know that
if I drank it would lead back to meth eventually, because it
lowers my inhibitions. Also, it just doesn't fit with our drug
and alcohol free life. |
danimal
55 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Like meth addiction,
alcoholism can be very "damaging and horrific", sit in on a few
AA meetings if you have any doubts. If that doesn't convince
you, have a look at some brain scan images, you'll find some
striking similarities in regards to brain damage.
It's thee biggest killer by far.
Substituting one drug for another is only inviting more
disaster, especially for "recovering" meth addicts.
IMO a successful relationship filled with happiness is
contingent upon clarity of mind and freedom from all mind
altering chemicals, esp. for two recovering meth addicts!
By the time we have become meth addicts we've pretty well
demonstrated how responsible we are with any mind altering
substance, can we honestly declare that alcohol will be any
different?
Alcohol severely retards the healing process, if it doesn't
squelch it entirely, & we do have a LOT of healing to do.
Booze has tells my brain..."wrong drug, do meth now!"
NOT a risk I'm willing to take, and if my car will run on it...I
don't think I should be drinking it.
"WTF drug" describes it nicely, so does "a ticket back to the
bag"...very likely a one way ticket.
As with meth, alcohol IS cunning, baffling and powerful, and it
is a VERY progressive, insidious disease.
This X-mas will be 2 yrs. alcohol free, and I've never felt
better in my life.
As far as any ultimatums go, make some for yourself, he's a big
boy, and like most men, he will do what he wants...when he
wants.
Wishing you both clarity of mind and long, happy life
together...substance free! |
Loraura |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Replacing one compulsion
with another is like changing seats on the Titanic. |
Indiana
shedevil |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Quote:
Replacing one compulsion with another
is like changing seats on the Titanic.
I love it!
I have a question... Does this include food as a compulsion
also? |
Loraura |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I'd say ABSOLUTELY.
Using food is not a healthy way to cope.
Food CAN absolutely be used as a drug. |
Indiana
shedevil |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Hmm...
So if the "recovering" addict is abstaining from "drugs" but is
stuffing his face and comfort eating... He has managed to gain
70 pounds since last July... He still lies and displays his old
behaviors...
Is he truly in recovery or just abstaining?
Oh well... Not my issue to figure out. Thanks for the info. |
eyes
open83 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
i have an analogy for
this question....
think of drinking like driving..
think of using meth like flying..
how many times do you think you would get in the car and drive
across country...before you said, hey, why don't we just
fly...it will get you to the same place a lot quicker...WHY
DRIVE WHEN YOU CAN FLY....
if you don't want to get loaded anymore, my advice, don't get
loaded, on any mind or mood altering substance because
ultimately one will end up leading back to the other... |
Jamie
J1979 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I don't drink because
whenever I get drunk I crave a stimulant like speed or cocaine.
Then after I use the upper I feel like I want to come down so I
end up using heroin. Then I'm back to square one--using heroin
and uppers again. It took awhile for me to realize this but now
I'm very aware of why I cannot drink. |
kmb
2006 |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Alcohol is as deadly as
anything else. If you don't believe me, I've got a jar full of
ashes sitting on my bookshelf that proves otherwise. I call them
"Mommy."
The disease of alcoholism killed my Mom on April 28, 2005. |
nine
years
clean |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I've said it before, in
fact earlier today in another thread, and I'll say it again:
STEP AWAY FROM THE ALCOHOL.
Listen, it's your husband's recovery, like Theresa says, and
yours is your own.
But I will tell you from first hand experience that all alcohol
did for me early in my recovery was lead me right back, and I
mean I did a beeline to the dope man.
My drug of choice was not and is not alcohol. It is speed. Plain
and simple. And when I caught a buzz off the beer, I wanted my
drug of choice worse. The desire was too strong for me to
resist.
Luckily, on the day I tried the "I'll have a beer instead of a
line" theory, I was in Port Angeles, Washington, where I went to
get clean, and I knew no dope men. But I tried to find one,
that's for sure. I tried and tried and tried, but to no avail.
Then I went home and slept off the beer, and I knew the next day
when I woke up that I couldn't drink and stay clean. PERIOD.
Had I been in the town that I used in for 13 years, I would
probably still be spun today. Odds are, I would still be out
there.
So, my best advice is don't go there. If your husband were here,
I'd tell him the same thing. Recovery is hard enough without
adding alcohol and everything that comes with it, like relapse,
into the mix. |
still
catest |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
I never had a problem
with booze, either. I actually didn't LIKE to drink. I thought I
was just a meth addict, that alcohol would have no affect on my
recovery.
Even if my brain doesn't prefer alcohol, I found that my
addiction will take ANYTHING that makes me feel different, and
will take it to excess.
So I don't like the flavor of alcohol? Simple - I just did
shots...I'd do a lot of them and do them as fast as I could so I
could get good and buzzed as fast as possible, without getting
sickened by drinking a full glass of whatever.
And yeah...it's the "WTF drug".
I really like what Grumps told me when I asked how alcohol
affects my brain's healing from meth use. She said:
"It's like watching paint dry in the rain." Totally.
Once we awaken the monster (our addiction), we are vulnerable to
ANYTHING, chemical or not chemical, that makes us feel better or
different. That's what I'm told, anyway.
I hope he ditches the booze. It's just as evil as meth. |
nine
years
clean |
Re: Swap meth addiction for alcohol?
Quote:
"It's like watching paint dry in the
rain."
Grumpy is full of wisdom.
I never heard that before.
Excellent response. |
Grandpa
Don |
A drug is a drug is a
drug
I was an
alcoholic at the age of 15, the booze led me to pot, the pot to
cocaine the cocaine to lsd the lsd to heroin and the heroin to
meth. After 23 years of addiction and wallowing in vomit and
dirt, I began to wonder if I would have turned out the way I did
if I would have never taken that first drink of beer.
I hear that alcohol is the number one destroyer, home wrecker
and addiction. I hear that alcoholism is the number one killer.
Yea it's legal, but so is abortion, legalism doesn't make things
right.
I remember throwing up more alcohol vomit than any other drug
including Meth.
After 19-years I have not had an urge to drink or use but if I
did, alcohol would want to get me back first.
My advice, Leave it ALL alone, get high on each other, you do
not need anything else. A beer will split you apart, I Promise! |
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