What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

tilmorn
comes

What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

I had a post yesterday about my boyfriends pupils always being dialated. Well, he confessed to me that he has used since we have been together and that's 2 yrs so far.

Well, he told me that he used sometimes once a week or so. He smokes crystal and in Jan. he told me he used about 4 or 5 times.

My question is this, do you consider him to be a heavy user. And if so, what signs my I see if he is staying off the drug and really going through detox.

One time is a lot to me, so its about once a week he has used.

He was home all weekend and was tired, exhausted, moody, not in a really good mood. Then Monday he came home from work and was in a happy mood, lovey, and worked in the garage until 11pm and didn't go to be until 2am to turn around and wake up at 6:30am to go to work. He woke up this morning in a very happy, happy mood!!! What's up with this mood changes???

Tamtom

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

luv
epiphany

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

Meth becomes the addict's andtidepressant and then master

tilmorn
comes

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

So if he uses just once during the week then it will give him that rush that will last all week or does he have to use it evey other day or so to keep the high up or what? Just curious cause I'm pretty dumb to the drug.

Tamtom

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

from what you posted it sounds to me he is using every day while working, the only time it sounds he is not using is when he is home burnt out.

tilmorn
comes

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He told me he smokes crystal. So even if he gets one hit how long will that effect last. He did confess to me he used it before work and when he was getting ready to do something exhusting to give a bit of an energy boost. If he used yesterday just on hit will it effect him the entire day? Or does he need to have that steady high?

forget
suzette

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"once" means a week, or at least 3 days
........how ever long I was awake, I called it "once"

one run.

there's like a 7 run curve with us.
......if we say once, we really used all week.

XOutlaw
Woman

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

The effects last several hours depending on the amount used. The effects also lessen over time with long term use (2 years would be long term), and the user develops tolerance levels which require more of the drug in order to get the desired high. When he is "happy", he is using. When he is tired and grumpy, he is not using. The pattern usually goes like this. I was like that for about five years. I would get a bag, use for several days, then "crash" for a couple of days and repeat. I have been clean now almost three years.

Welcome to the community.

tilmorn
comes

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He shows not much change so it is very hard for me to tell when he does and when he does'nt. He never stays up alnight. I have never experienced him staying up alnight long maybe until 2 or 3 am but thats as late as it gets. I do notice he gos to be early on weekends compared to thoughout the week which is backwards because he should be tired when he gets in from work but usually isn't.

XOutlaw
Woman

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Sounds like he uses in the morning and maybe at work. This is just an assumption based on what you are telling me. What type of work does he do?

When I used in the morning and a little in the afternoon, I was ready eat a little and go to bed at night. One does not necessarily stay up all night, and have sores and missing teeth, to be an addict. Addiction has many faces.

luv
epiphany

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

Looking back...I realize that I have been a witness to the absolute ugliest total destruction of a wonderful beautiful, loving, successful human being. There was not a damned thing I could have done to stop the destruction. I tried.

It has been like watching a war from the losing side.

Every day...week..month, I thought it couldn't get any worse. It always did.

I can't believe I watched. I didn't get anything much good with watching...meth steals all the love eventually and money and goodwill and peace and privacy and health.

I can't change the past...I watched. Being a witness to the downfall has lessons in it for me, but I don't really wish it on my worst enemy. I am not sure how hurtful it has been to my kids....more grief for them, they lost a lot of their mom for a time. We are surviving now, like post traumatic stress victims. I have wonderful relationships with people here and in my alanon/naranon program and I know and love myself much better.

I have to work on forgiving myself for watching...

But, I really don't think I would have watched if I had known how gruesome the show would be. What seemed so manageable, became a nightmare.

tilmorn
comes

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You are exactly right on that!!! He's a plumber and has time between jobs to do what he wants and take lunch when he wants. He has always put his kids first and never on a shelf. I just can't see how he has been able to keep this so called normal life. The day I confronted him he told me he used that Friday morning with a buddy before going in to work so I know he uses during work I just don't know if he has quit the cycle or not. Just looking for some advice. I just don't see much detox signs to think he has given it up.

XOutlaw
Woman

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

That's the thing with meth. There aren't many signs, other than being tired, hungry, grumpy, and sleepy. That *IS* the detox. The happy phase is the using phase.

NoMore
4Me

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What interests me besides the comments is that he has a buddy to use with.

IF you were to start using, how easily do you think it would be to find a using buddy??

That says long-term use to me.

He's jeopordizing his income and his freedom each time he uses.
Another thing that makes me wonder is..
where is he using?? In his vehicle? If so, that's just asking to get busted.

Meth is illegal and the charges for possession are stiff.
I don't know what state you're in, but here those I know who have gotten busted using in public have gone to jail.

Hope things work out for you.

vctry7

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If he's happy, he's high.
If he's grouchy or moody, he's coming down or doesn't have any meth(in between bags, as I say)
If he says he uses once a week, that means he goes on one run a week - just like Suz said. One run can last one day or all week.
I have never known anyone to take just one hit from a pipe and lay it down for the rest of the week. Usually they smoke the whole bowl or the whole foil. That would keep me up for a good 12 hours.

If he wasn't an addict he wouldn't risk jail, death, or your relationship.

Someone that uses "once a week" is a heavy user.

sickand
tired77

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So if he uses just once during the week then it will give him that rush that will last all week or does he have to use it evey other day or so to keep the high up or what?

No, the high from smoking on one occasion would not last all week. And every other day or so wouldn't keep him going, either... it would be more like every few hours or so. (I'd venture to say AT LEAST a few times a day to maintain)

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If he used yesterday just one hit will it effect him the entire day? Or does he need to have that steady high?

How long one bowl would affect him would really depend on his tolerance. Since he's used for so long, it's doubtful that "one hit" would last him all day... it's more likely that he smokes small amounts throughout the day to maintain.

I'm sorry you're going through this... I know how difficult and confusing this whole ordeal can be... my husband is an addict who's currently abstinent.

kymo
sabi

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Because of my awful experience with my addict husband, to use at all is unacceptable and if I knew then what I know now I would have ran and never looked back long ago. You see I was convinced that my love for him and his for me and our children would be enough to miraculously heal him of his illness. Meth addiction is a self inflicted illness and so must recovery be self inflicted. I was naive and new to the game, and that is what it becomes w/ them, sort of cat and mouse. He'd leave and I'd snoop looking for something I didn't really want to find and never really did find but the personality change and absence from home told me what I refused to see. I came to a realization, if I feel the need to question every aspect of where he's been, who he had hung out with or what he was hiding, then what the h3ll was I doing with him? I wasn't going to change those things, just make him lie some more out of shame and disappointment and fear of losing the only secure and stable thing left in his life. After my husband went to rehab he was God sent and doing and saying everything he needed to but then he relapsed only this time he didn't stay gone from the house, he'd come home and boy was I sorry I ever said anything about him being gone! He drove me crazy, creaping through the house all night, turning everything up side down and in side out to find evidence of my supposed infidelities, trying to break into my computer that wasn't even password protected, going through my cell phone thinking there would be some ground breaking evidence of all my "lies", it's complete madness. My husband suffers from meth psychosis but he wasn't always like that, it started out using "once" a week or so but because I was so h3ll bent on him not using AT ALL, he lied and his use excellarated. All of the accusations are due to not just the psychosis but guilt, they feel they are no good so why wouldn't I be persuing other avenues? It doesn't occur to them, though obvious to a blind person, that any life would be better than the one you are living w/an addict so if there was someone or something else I'd be gone like the wind. I chose to stay and be "supportive" (enable), to love him unconditionally and fight this with him because he "needed" me by his side to do it, BULL, if you want recovery it's everywhere you turn just like the dope is, but you have to want recovery as bad as the poison. I'll tell you what, if an addict wants dope, they will go to the ends of the earth to obtain it and will lose all that is dear to them and lose themself in the process, so if they want help they can make just as much as an effort and will succeed because they want it bad enough.
I would truly examine where your life will be in the future, I am not telling you to leave or take any drastic measures but really be honest with yourself and make sure that you are prepared for what road you are going to travel. If you choose to weather the storm with your husband, the road will be long, hard and a very bumpy ride. I hope it works out for you and your husband, Good luck.

Danimal
55

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Given two choices I'd say "heavy user", once we start smoking it we typically smoke like a chimney! And...
We lie like dogs to protect a meth addiction, but!
You're getting partial truths...build on them if you're willing to go the distance, it's going to be a marathon.

luv
epiphany

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Yes....my darling wonderful man was a plumber....and oh what a fine hardworking plumber he was.

Now he is in h3ll and his plumbing tools are spread far and wide and his sink is clogged.

Of course, if he had quit when I told him to, he would be plumbing away and making big bucks and have all he could have ever wanted. The sneaky little light use meth addiction seems to take the strongest of the strong DOWN the deepest.

Seems that the most successful, smartest, most creative, most loving....make the best meth addicts.

kym
osabi

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As usual you are so right luv, why is that do ya think? My husband was the most respectful, dignified, giving, deliteful of men and here I am watching the ship go down!

tilmorn
comes

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Thank you all for your comments and advice!!! I am now understanding a bit more. I know he has told me when, where, how much and all but there have been some truths left out. How can someone you love and hold so dearly ruin such a great relationship??? I have eaten myself up inside due to this not knowing. I can't tell if he is telling me the truth or not anymore. I have to build that trust we once had, but how can you when you feel so betrayed???

Thanks all for your comments!

luv
epiphany

Re: What defines a light meth user compared to a heavy meth user?

When meth is involved, it is very difficult to build up trust. It is a one-sided affair.

kym
osabi

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I have to build that trust we once had, but how can you when you feel so betrayed???

Why do you have to do anything? Again this is not your problem to fix, you are setting yourself up for sheer disappointment if you believe you can change anything he is or is not doing. You did not betray his trust, he betrayed yours, let him do the building as he is his own wrecking ball. You sound like you still have some type of guilt that you did not rightfully earn, you are the innocent party in this addiction, let him work hard at obtaining sobriety, if that is what he really wants. The harder he has to work the more appreciated it will be later. In the meantime, do not blame yourself, you DID NOT do anything to cause this, it's not your war honey!