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Forgiving yourself as a codependent
silly
veronica |
Forgiving yourself as a codependent
It's taken me all day to
post this, trying my hardest to make it come out right. I
apologize if this is O/T - this is where I come for "help."
I'm discovering a lot about myself as I figure out this whole
codependency issue. I've been reading the book, "Love is a
Choice - Recovery for Codependent Relationships" as recommended
by someone on this board. This book breaks down how a person
becomes codependent - issues from childhood - physical abuse,
emotional abuse, alcohol or drug addicted parents, lack of
emotional support, etc., etc. It all fits my childhood very
well. I'm okay with that. I understand that is what made me this
way.
But ... I am struggling.
When I look at what I've put my own children through, it breaks
my heart (and reading this book is now making me feel guilty for
what I have put on my own children).
Married for 5 years to their father who was verbally abusive and
emotionally absent. He also became physically abusive during the
divorce.
Moved on to a 1 year relationship with an alcoholic.
Move on to a 3 year relationship with a meth addict,
steroid/ecstasy/pain killer user (the one you hear so much
about).
So now I'm reading in this book, about how I became the way that
I am ... I've been exposing my children to that exact same crap
for their entire lives, jumping from partner to partner, all of
them being abusive in one form or another.
And in dealing with these relationships, my involvement
emotionally, the fighting, the stress, being short tempered ---
more abuse directly toward my kids from ME (without even knowing
that I was doing it).
I'm feeling overwhelming guilt for what I have put my children
through. The purpose of that book has now been completely turned
around and I'm having a difficult time coping with what I'VE
done.
Have I just set them up for the same pain I'm going through?
I've been to counselors - let go of the guilt, put it behind
you. But how? I'm now a mess, worrying about the damage that
I've caused to my children (and I know it doesn't do any good to
worry but how do you make it stop)? I know I provide the best
environment for them and I know that they know they are loved
(something I never felt growing up) ... but what negative
impacts have I caused on their precious lives and how do I fix
it? Can I fix it?
I know it doesn't do any good to beat myself up over it, it's
done. But how do I let go of the guilt?
Just like the meth addict that has to deal with their guilt in
recovery ... how do I, as the codependent, deal with the guilt
for decisions I made FOR my children that could have possibly
caused them pain? |
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imlost
inky |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
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how do I, as the codependent, deal
with the guilt for decisions I made FOR my children that
could have possibly caused them pain?
By accepting that yes, they did have pain.
But they also have seen courage. They have also seen love. They
have also seen their mother value them and herself enough to
leave an abusive situation.
They have seen their mother battle to give them a better life-
to be a better mother.
There are 2 sides to every coin Karen. You can't have the good
without the bad, you can't truly appreciate the sun if you have
never known dark.
Just as they have learned from your mistakes, they also learn
from you get it rights.
I think these days you have more rights than wrongs.
Don't you ? |
mmkf1 |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
You TEACH them. And then
you hope for the best. As they get older you share with them.
And then you hope for the best. You're stopping the madness.
It's okay for them to know you're only human. and it's ok for
you to tell them at the right time that you hope for them that
they are able to make better choices for themselves. And you
know what, they probably might. So relax and be proud that
you're not continuing a cycle, that you found the strength and
courage to learn a different way. |
coffee
diva |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
I so feel you on this
one. My sister and I were just talking about this. My son has
had more damage from my marriage, because of my choices, than
when I was single.
I was a single mom for 8 years. I was adamant about who I let
into my son's life. I protected him. I never brought men home.
But for the last two years, he has seen me crumble emotionally,
be lied to, screamed at, do the screaming and yelling, watch our
family unit fall apart and me make threats and not follow
through.
He was the one telling me Mike needed to leave. That he just
brought me down and he couldn't stand the way he was treating
me.
When I finally stood my ground, he was so awesome. He is such a
compassionate young man.
Now that Mike is home, he is working just as hard to regain the
trust of my son and his.
I do feel guilt. I think about what kind of example I set. But
at the same time, I did the best I could at the time. No one of
us is perfect. All parents damage their kids in one way or
another. That is part of life and part of growing up.
The only thing we can do is fix ourselves and talk to our kids
honestly about our mistakes. Just like addicts, we can reverse
damage with our ACTIONS. |
RIP |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
dear silly,
Have you finished the book yet? It has some great ideas on how
to deal with the forgiveness thing that you so much want!
If I could offer you some hope...it is that you are not that
person that you were nor are in any of those unhealthy
relationships TODAY .
Once you get deep enough into the book, you will begin the 10
stage recovery process, which will help guide you to the place
you so desire.
Remember this is a lot of work ( I know you can do it). For me I
wanted it to be all fixed RIGHT NOW damn it!
But it doesn't work that way patience, persistence, faith and
desire are the only true ways to true freedom from codependency. |
silly
veronica |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
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Have you finished the book yet?
No - I'm only about one-fourth of the way
through it. I honestly cannot believe how much it hits home and
has already opened up my eyes. I battled through the beginning
chapters, dealing with my own childhood and how I ended up where
I'm at.
But that dropped me in this well - this hole that I can't get
out of ... beating myself up and feeling guilty for what I've
put my kids through. Now worrying about what their relationships
will be like as they get older - will they turn to drugs or
alcohol themselves?
I know I have to be patient ... and I really look forward to
continuing reading and hope that some answers lie in the pages
to come.
Quote:
But it doesn't work that way
patience, persistence, faith and desire are the only true
ways to true freedom from codependency.
I needed that reminder - thank you.
I'm not sure what my problem is - again, between the full moon,
the hormones from the pill change, and now my period -- I just
feel lost and an emotional wreck. |
imlost
inky |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
Karen, if you stay stuck
on what is in the past, stuck on what you can't change, you lose
today - something that is within your control.
When you get a better grip on your emotions, maybe you should
just ask your children what they think? Are they old enough?
I just went through that this past winter with my eldest son- a
lot of old emotional garbage from both of us, how I was raised,
how I in turn raised him, just a lot of old hurts.
It was hard but worth it. We are both in a much better place
now.
What is done is done- it can not be changed only accepted for
what it is, made peace with , and move on.
I was asked this awhile back on this forum- we were discussing
childhoods and such, I had made the comment on how much guilt I
had felt over how my children were raised, how much I allowed
for them to witness from their Dad.
Someone said to me are you proud of your children now? Did they
turn out okay?
Yes Karen they did. They really did.
Then why would you change anything?
Karen, that is a good question - why looking back, having the
benefit of hindsight, seeing where we all are now, why would I
change anything?
What they witnessed growing up may very well be the reason their
lives are the way they are.
That they are not meth addicts, alcoholics, etc......
When you are better able, just talk with your kids. Talk with
them and listen to how they feel. You listening will validate
their feelings and do more for healing than anything else.
You have done the best you could at the time- you know more and
will do better now.
You are a good mom. You do love your kids. You do see where
change needs to be made and you have the courage to change.
What more could anyone ask? really?
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RIP |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
This too shall pass.
I felt dumbfounded at about a quarter of the way through it as
well.
It got better....... and when I started with the meat and
potatoes of the program I got better. YOU WILL TOO!
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silly
veronica |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
Thanks, Theresa - some
really great advice! My children are 7 and 9 and I feel like we
have a very open relationship (I'm always asking how they feel,
what's going on, how others are treating them ... and I feel
like they give honest answers). I tuck them in every night and
we talk about anything that's bothering them (sometimes I think
I talk too much).
I'm a worrier ... it's one of the things I hope this book can
help me figure out.
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Nyte
Passion |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
What is
self-forgiveness?
Self-forgiving is:
Accepting yourself as a human who has faults and makes mistakes.
Letting go of self anger for your past failures, errors, and
mistakes.
No longer needing penance, sorrow, and regret over a grievous,
self-inflicted, personal offense.
The act of self love after you have admitted your failure,
mistake, or misdeed.
The spiritual self healing of your heart by calming self
rejection, quieting the sense of failure, and lightening the
burden of guilt.
The act of letting go of the need to work so hard to make up for
your past offenses.
Negative consequences of the absence of self-forgiveness
In the absence of self forgiveness, you run the risk of:
Unresolved hurt, pain, and suffering from self-destructive
behaviors.
Unresolved guilt and remorse for self-inflicted offenses.
Chronically seeking revenge and paybacks toward yourself.
Being caught up in unresolved self anger, self hatred and self
blaming.
Defensive and distant behavior with others.
Pessimism, negativity, and non-growth oriented behavior.
Having a festering wound that never allows the revitalization of
self healing.
Fear over making new mistakes or of having the old mistakes
revealed.
Being overwhelmed by fear of failure, fear of rejection, fear of
non approval, low self-esteem, and low self worth.
Signs of the absence of self-forgivenessLack of self forgiveness
can result in:
A loss of love for yourself.
Indifference toward yourself and your needs.
An emotional vacuum in which little or no emotions are shown or
shared.
Chronic attacks or angry outbursts against self.
Disrespectful treatment of self.
Self-destructive behaviors.
Self-pitying.
Chronic recalling and reminding of past failures, mistakes,
errors, and offenses.
Suspicions about others' motives, behaviors, attitudes, and
beliefs when they are accepting of you.
Chronic depression.
Chronic hostility, sarcasm, and cynicism.
Self name calling, belittling, and self demeaning behaviors.
Unwillingness to change and/or unwillingness to seek the help
necessary to change.
Resistance to doing what is necessary to heal within and recover
from low self-esteem.
Irrational thinking preventing self-forgivenessI hurt myself so
much; how can I ever expect to be forgiven for that?
No one deserved the treatment I dished out, and I do not believe
that forgiveness is deserved in this situation.
I am sick over what I did; how can I ever forgive myself?
I must be inherently evil, and I am despicable. No forgiveness
will ever change that.
I am vicious and cruel, and I always need to be on guard because
of that; so why try to forgive what I have done? It is a sign of
weakness or softness to forgive myself. I must always keep my
guard up so as never to repeat my wrongdoings.
There are some things I can never forgive myself for.
Only God can forgive me, though at times I don't believe He can
for what I have done.
What has happened in my life is God's seeking revenge for all
the evil I have done in the past.
I have done too much for which I can never be forgiven.
I am just seeking my forgiveness so that I can come back and
hurt myself again.
I do not deserve any self kindness, self compassion, or self
forgiveness for what I have done to myself or others; I'll see
to it that I am never able to forget it!
All people who do wrong deserve the worst that life has to dish
out.
I resent myself for hurting myself or others. It is better for
me to be hidden behind my wall so I don't hurt anybody again.
If I could treat myself or others that way, then I am
undeserving of being forgiven, loved, or cared for.
New behaviors needed to create self-forgiveness
In order to forgive yourself you need to practice:
Letting go of past hurt and pain.
Trusting in your goodness.
Trusting in the goodness and mercy of your Higher Power to take
over the burden for you.
Letting go and letting your Higher Power lead you during a
hurtful time.
Believing in the infinite justice and wisdom of your Higher
Power.
Letting go of fears for the future.
Allowing yourself to be vulnerable to growth.
Taking a risk.
Letting go of self hostility, resentment and self-destructive
behaviors.
Working out your self anger.
Overlooking slight relapses or steps backward and getting back
on the wagon of recovery immediately.
Developing a personal spirituality.
Developing an openness to the belief that you can change.
Developing trust in yourself.
Open, honest, and assertive communication with yourself
concerning hurts, pains, and offenses experienced.
Identifying and replacing the irrational beliefs that block your
ability to forgive yourself.
Steps to develop self-forgiveness
Step 1: In order to increase your ability to forgive yourself,
you need to recognize what this behavior involves. Answer the
following questions in your journal.
A. What do you mean by "self forgiveness''?
B. Have you ever forgiven yourself before? How did it feel?
C. Have you ever brought up something from the past to remind
you how you hurt yourself or others? How did that make you feel?
D. What role do you feel self forgiveness has in your growing
down? How could you improve?
E. How has the absence of forgiving yourself affected your
current emotional stability?
F. What are the signs of the absence of self forgiveness in your
relationship with your: (1) family of origin, (2) current
family, (3) significant others, (4) spouse, (5) children, (6)
parents, (7) relatives, (8) friends, (9) coworkers? With whom do
you experience a wall or barrier behind which you hide your past
real or perceived failures, mistakes, errors, or misdeeds? What
feedback do you get about this wall you have been hiding behind?
G. What beliefs block your ability to forgive yourself? What
would be necessary to change these beliefs?
H. What new behaviors do you need to develop in order to
increase your ability to forgive yourself?
I. What role does the existence of spirituality play in your
ability to forgive yourself? The lack of it?
J. For what do you need to forgive yourself?
Step 2: Now that you have a better picture of what is involved
in self forgiveness, you are ready to work on a specific past
failure, mistake, error, or misdeed.
A. List a failure, mistake, error, misdeed, or event for which
you are unable to forgive yourself.
B. How much energy, creativity, problem solving capability, and
focus on growth is sapped from you whenever you recall this past
hurt?
C. What feelings come to mind as you recall this past hurt?
D. How would you describe your role in this past event? In what
ways were you the victim, perpetrator, enabler, martyr,
bystander, instigator, target, scapegoat, distracter,
peacemaker, people pleaser, or rescuer?
E. Why do you feel strongly over what happened and how you
treated yourself or others?
F. What did this event do to your self-esteem and self worth?
G. Who was responsible for your reaction to the incident?
H. Who was responsible for your feelings about the incident?
I. Who was responsible for your inability to forgive yourself?
J. How can you forgive yourself?
K. How can you put this incident behind you?
L. How can you avoid being so hurt when something like this
happens again?
Step 3: Once you have thought out how to forgive yourself for
this past mistake, failure, error, or event, use this self
forgiveness mirror work script. For the next thirty days let go
of your self anger, self blaming, self hatred, self disgust, and
self-pity over this specific past event by spending time in
front of a mirror using this script.
Self Forgiveness Mirror Script
I forgive you for (the past event).
You are a human being subject to making mistakes and errors.
You do not need to be perfect in order for me to love you.
This (past event) is just an example of the challenges which you
have been given on earth by your Higher Power.
You will meet the challenge and grow by handing the pain and
hurt from this problem (past event) over to your Higher Power to
take it off your shoulders.
You don't need to be so burdened by the pain and hurt you feel
because of this (past event).
You are a good person. I love you.
You deserve my understanding, compassion, and forgiveness.
You deserve to come out from behind the wall you have built
around yourself as a result of this (past event).
Hand the wall over to your Higher Power so you can become more
visible to me and others.
I love seeing you, talking to you, and listening to you.
You have within you all you need to grow in self-esteem,
self-confidence, self-respect, and self deservedness.
There is nothing you have ever done that can't be forgiven by
me.
You did the best you could knowing what you did at the time.
You have compulsive and impulsive habitual ways of acting which
you are working to change.
You may have slip ups again but as long as you get back on the
wagon of recovery and keep on trying that's good enough for me.
You no longer need to condemn yourself for this (past event).
You are forgiven. I love you and I am so happy to have you in my
life.
You and I are best friends and together we will gain strength by
giving all our past hurt, pain, guilt, self anger, and self
hatred over to our Higher Power.
I feel lighter as we talk because I feel the burden of the hurt,
pain, and guilt over this (past event) lifting from my
shoulders.
I see you holding your head up and standing taller as I forgive
you for this (past event).
I know that your Higher Power has forgiven you and I feel the
peace and serenity of letting go of the need to hold on to it
(past event) anymore.
I forgive you because you deserve to be forgiven. No one needs
to hold onto such a burden for so long.
You deserve a better life than you have been giving yourself.
Let go of this (past event) and know that you are forgiven.
You are a loveable, capable, special person and I promise to
continue to work on letting go of hurt and pain from the past
which has been preventing your inner healing and self growth.
Step 4: Once you have forgiven yourself fully over the past
incident, repeat Step 3 addressing one at a time all the past or
present incidents of hurting self or others for which you need
to forgive yourself.
Step 5: When you have exhausted your list of incidents for which
you need self-forgiveness, you will be on the road to
self-recovery. If you have problems in the future, return to
Step 1 and begin again.
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silly
veronica |
Re Forgiving yourself as a codependent
Wow -
thanks! Can't wait to read all of this when I get home (I
printed it off). |
See also:
Codependent books for reading, any suggestions?
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