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Husband / relationship question - why does
he neglect me?
marakris |
Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
What to make of this?
Ok, I said I was leaving this site....but my husband got banned
so now I can be here without him knowing about it.
My birthday came and went......the love obsessed, control freak
didn't buy me a gift.......AGAIN.....I baked my own cake.....He
went out and bought himself....on my birthday....a new truck,
and all kinds of stuff. He also spent tons of money on
landscaping and various things.
This morning I told him that I felt neglected...for that and
various other things.....he just got mad and started yelling at
me and we got into a big fight.
He is going to AA for a whole week now.
Studying codependency and stuff like that.
He says that he is a codependent??????
I don't understand if he loves me so much....why he neglects
me.....all the time.
This is the kind of stuff that he thinks drives him to use
meth.....he's doing the right thing for A WHOLE WEEK....and I
don't appreciate anything....
Am I asking too much? |
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stillgoing
crazy |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Hhmmm sounds very
familiar. My husband did nothing for me on my birthday too. It
hurt badly. Your husband sounds so much like mine. The only
thing I can say (and I don't know your whole story) is if you
are going to stay with him just sit back and see if his actions
are changing. Going to meetings for a whole week is nothing. You
know that he is not the same brain wise if he was using meth.
You know that it changes them. Maybe you should read up more on
what it does to them. Go to sfj's site. I have read it a million
times but sometimes you just need a refresher. As far as him
saying that your complaining is why he wants to use is bs! That
is just one more manipulation tactic. |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Ya, it's not curing his
anger/hostility......I thought it would.....but we still fight
all the time. |
Loraura |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
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Ya, it's not curing his
anger/hostility......I thought it would.....but we still
fight all the time.
Not in a week it won't.
But if he gets a sponsor and WORKS THE STEPS it can and will.
Sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly. |
Rachel
sue76 |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
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My birthday came and went......the
love obsessed, control freak didn't buy me a
gift.......AGAIN.....I baked my own cake.....He went out and
bought himself....on my birthday....a new truck, and all
kinds of stuff. He also spent tons of money on landscaping
and various things.
Well Happy Birthday first of all. Sounds
like you got a bunch of great presents.*sarcasm*
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This morning I told him that I felt
neglected...for that and various other things.....he just
got mad and started yelling at me and we got into a big
fight.
How dare you feel neglected? I mean my God
you ungrateful woman, why do you think that I should spend any
of my money on you. I wanted that stuff, I deserve it and by
God, I am going to get whatever I want, whenever I want so you
better just accept it.
Does that about sum it up?
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He says that he is a
codependent??????
I read a post here once about being an
addict and also being a codependent. It was rather interesting
and maybe the people that replied about it will be so kind as to
reply to that part of your question again.
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I don't understand if he loves me so
much....why he neglects me.....all the time.
Because you all have a twisted kind of
love. The kind of love where control is his way of showing love.
A very unhealthy love.
A kind of love where you stay because you are hoping that
someday he is going to realize your worth.
Here is some stuff that I found on Codependency.
How Do Co-Dependent People Behave?
Co-dependents have low self-esteem and look for anything outside
of themselves to make them feel better. They find it hard to ?be
themselves.? Some try to feel better through alcohol, drugs or
nicotine - and become addicted. Others may develop compulsive
behaviors like workaholics, gambling, or indiscriminate sexual
activity.
They have good intentions. They try to take care of a person who
is experiencing difficulty, but the caretaking becomes
compulsive and defeating. Co-dependents often take on a martyr's
role and become ?benefactors? to an individual in need. A wife
may cover for her alcoholic husband; a mother may make excuses
for a truant child; or a father may ?pull some strings? to keep
his child from suffering the consequences of delinquent
behavior.
The problem is that these repeated rescue attempts allow the
needy individual to continue on a destructive course and to
become even more dependent on the unhealthy caretaking of the
?benefactor.? As this reliance increases, the co-dependent
develops a sense of reward and satisfaction from ?being needed.?
When the caretaking becomes compulsive, the co-dependent feels
with out choice and helpless in the relationship, but is unable
to break away from the cycle of behavior that causes it.
Co-dependents view themselves as victims and are attracted to
that same weakness in the love and friendship relationships.
Characteristics of Co-Dependent People Are:
An exaggerated sense of responsibility for the actions of
others.
A tendency to confuse love and pity, with the tendency to ?love?
people they can pity and rescue.
A tendency to do more than their share, all of the time.
A tendency to become hurt when people don't recognize their
efforts.
An unhealthy dependence on relationships. The co-dependent will
do anything to hold on to a relationship; to avoid the feeling
of abandonment.
An extreme need for approval and recognition.
A sense of guilt when asserting themselves.
A compelling need to control others.
Lack of trust in self and/or others.
Fear of being abandoned or alone.
Difficulty identifying feelings.
Rigidity/difficulty adjusting to change.
Problems with intimacy/boundaries.
Chronic anger.
Lying/dishonesty.
Poor communications
Difficulty making decisions.
Questionnaire To Identify Signs Of Co-Dependency
This condition appears to run in different degrees, whereby the
intensity of symptoms are on a spectrum of severity, as opposed
to an all or nothing scale. Please note that only a qualified
professional can make a diagnosis of co-dependency; not everyone
experiencing these symptoms suffers from co-dependency.
1. Do you keep quiet to avoid arguments?
2. Are you always worried about others? opinions of you?
3. Have you ever lived with someone with an alcohol or drug
problem?
4. Have you ever lived with someone who hits or belittles you?
5. Are the opinions of others more important than your own?
6. Do you have difficulty adjusting to changes at work or home?
7. Do you feel rejected when significant others spend time with
friends?
8. Do you doubt your ability to be who you want to be?
9. Are you uncomfortable expressing your true feelings to
others?
10. Have you ever felt inadequate?
11. Do you feel like a ?bad person? when you make a mistake?
12. Do you have difficulty taking compliments or gifts?
13. Do you feel humiliation when your child or spouse makes a
mistake?
14. Do you think people in your life would go downhill without
your constant efforts?
15. Do you frequently wish someone could help you get things
done?
16. Do you have difficulty talking to people in authority, such
as the police or your boss?
17. Are you confused about who you are or where you are going
with your life?
18. Do you have trouble saying ?no? when asked for help?
19. Do you have trouble asking for help?
20. Do you have so many things going at once that you can't do
justice to any of them?
If you identify with several of these symptoms; are dissatisfied
with yourself or your relationships; you should consider seeking
professional help. Arrange for a diagnostic evaluation with a
licensed physician or psychologist experienced in treating
co-dependency.
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Am I asking too much?
Has he always been this way and you have
accepted it? I am not saying that you are asking too much. I am
wondering though if you are expecting him to be different than
he always has been. If that is the case, maybe it is not that
you are expecting too much so much as it is that you are just
fed up and realizing that this is not how you really want to
live your life. If he has always been this way, then he is what
he is and if you choose to stay, that is one of the things that
you will have to learn to accept as it is what it is.
JMHO |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Ok, from that list, he is
much more codependent than I am....much, much more.
Now that he is in AA he is starting to seem a little bit more
stable........but then he does stupid stuff....like say things
like .....I love myself, and then hug himself...just kidding
around....but this is still the answer to a problem that I will
have with the relationship...
It's just annoying...
gives himself hugs!!!!and not me!!!!
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marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Rachel,
No, I never have accepted it....
Birthdays and holidays mean a lot to me.
I already "got even" by not celebrating his......I hate that
though, I just end up feeling like an a**. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
I've been studying and
reading a lot about codependency in recent months. Some
codependents turn to drugs, alcohol, eating disorders, gambling,
or another person. So yes, codependency comes in all forms. I
would guess (my opinion) that the majority of addicts are also
codependents. |
Rachel
sue76 |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
If you have never
accepted it before then why are you accepting it now? |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
I'm not accepting now. I
never have.....I read some stuff about co-dependency vs. I think
Contra or something like that dependency....I'll have to find it
and post it....
I am the other one....
that is where you build walls and push people away....
it is the opposite of what he does, just about. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
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I'm not accepting now. I never
have.....
There's also something called DENIAL,
Marakris. It's always easiest to see in someone else's
situation. The abuse, the addict behavior (whether it be drugs
or alcohol), things that you've posted, things that he's posted.
I don't say that to piss you off ... but I see you as in a very
deep denial. |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
I'm not denying that I
could be in denial.
To accept what someone is doing would be "to tolerate without
protesting"......
I never ever do that.
Denial is a refusal to admit that something exists. I admit it
every day.
I admit it right now.
I'm trying to work it out to the best conclusion. That is called
problem solving. |
Rachel
sue76 |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
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To accept what someone is doing would
be "to tolerate without protesting"......
I wouldn't necessarily say that myself. While
your words may say that you protest, you actions say that you
are accepting.
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I'm trying to work it out to the best
conclusion.
Which would be what in your opinion? |
GaFlake |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
I'm not denying that I could be
in denial.
Now I'm a comedian, and that is just plain funny! So sorry, I'm
not being mean, just needed that laugh. |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Rachel,
Which would be what in your opinion?
I'm not 100% sure yet. I'm like 60-40 at this point.
60 in favor of believing in no recovery for us. |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Now I'm a comedian, and
that is just plain funny! So sorry, I'm not being mean, just
needed that laugh.
Glad I could make you laugh.....I bet I could make you laugh a
lot harder if I ........oh, never mind!! |
silly
veronica |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
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60 in favor of believing in no
recovery for us.
Meaning what? 60% that you don't need
recovery? ... or 60% that recovery isn't possible? |
marakris |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
60% that recovery isn't
possible
I don't know about possible....but if he's willing to face his
addiction issues, long term |
UCL
Angel |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Forgive me for saying
this if I'm speaking out of my bounds,...but from what you've
described of his behavior, it sounds like he's got quite a
sadistic side to him, and is more than a little narcissistic.
From what I know, those traits can be caused by addiction, BUT,
many times, they are caused by an underlying personality
disorder which may have been there before the addiction....such
as Borderline Personality Disorder or Antisocial or Narcissistic
Personality Disorders.
Those don't usually "go away" when someone gets sober. Recovery
from personality disorders, (and some of them aren't treatable)
requires a LOT of concerted effort, meds, support groups, and
even at that it is a lifelong battle.
Please just think about that as a factor...you deserve
happiness. |
paceset |
Re: Husband / relationship question - why the neglect?
Yep, those are
personality disorder traits-selfish jerk is what he looks like,
but in reality he is displaying immature addict classic
symptoms. He is not acting as a mature adult husband for some
reason, so, you must go right back to step one and admit that
you are powerless over the actions of the addict. Sucks! Just to
remind you, he is acting exactly like my addict boyfriend has
acted and many many others-textbook and as much as it seems
unfair and ridiculous, the only way to deal with it is to accept
it. Last night I asked my bf if he understood how much I just
needed to know who it was he wanted to share his life with (even
if it was one day at a time)-if it wasn't me, then I would be
very happy if he would say so. He just got mad at me and told me
he would tell me later. He believes in his head and heart that
if I ask him to act like a normal human being and treat me with
even a little respect and care, that I am "putting him down".
See, his head is all F*&%(D-UP! and I can't do a damned thing
about it but accept it.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! From one lonely birthday girl to another... |
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