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Trying to get into rehab, lost everything...

jthompson 084	Trying to get into rehab, lost everything... I have lost literally everything. House, job, car, the only thing I own are my clothes. I had to move back in with my parents and even after all that I still want more. I want to go to rehab but can not afford it and neither can my parents, I also have no insurance, what should I do?
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Sfj	Re: Trying to get into rehab Most rehabs are free. You can find thousands and thousands on the following link:dasis3.samhsa.gov/ You can also get help for spiritual needs from 12-step groups such as CMA which is meth specific or NA or AA. www.crystalmeth.org/index.php After you look at those links, if you have more questions, or need more help, please ask. That's why we're here.
kevin1st	Re: Trying to get into rehab substance abuse treatment as it has been delivered for the past 30 years is growing obsolete. as we learn more about addiction.....it is clear that we need to treat underlying conditions that "prop up" the addictive disorder. an assessment done by a competent psychiatrist is often necessary to determine the presence of a co-occurring mental illness that needs treatment also. for persons with a "dual disorder" it is imperative that you treat both the substance abuse and the psychiatric illness in an integrated manner. you need to treat both at the same time because they both fuel each other. in the past, it was common to check into rehab...learn about brain chemistry, go to a few aa or na meetings and 30 days later you are "cured". more often than not, that actually meant that your insurance had run out. more often than not, you were going back into the exact same environment, with the exact same stressors, with only a rudimentary (30-days worth ) set of "recovery skills"...........more often than not, relapse would occur. the relapse rate for 30-day programs is astounding and the treatment community has shrewdly placed the blame on the addict saying that "relapse is normal". this has allowed the treatment centers to have a revolving door for the addict to come in for treatment go out and relapse...repeat cycle ad infinity. the addict and the insurance companies would continue to get sheared like a flock of sheep returning each season. the more failed treatments you have (as a result of poor assessments and treatment staff that recommend a level of treatment that is not commensurate with the addiction severity) - the more resistant you can become to treatment. it's like someone who is prescribed an antibiotic that doesn't take the pills for the complete cycle - the disease will come back stronger and more resistant to antibiotics. same with under treating someone who has a serious meth problem. ahhhh....i guess the point of my rant is to be careful when shopping for treatment. make sure that the treatment center has a competent psychiatrist, medical staff, dietitian, someone that can provide specialized treatment for abuse (sexual, physical, emotional). make sure that the services are comprehensive and highly individualized. and most of all.....make sure the duration of your treatment is sufficient to allow you the time to develop and hone the skills necessary to face life challenges successfully. the only way to make a diamond out of a lump of coal is heat and pressure applied over a LONG period of time.
Loraura	Re: Trying to get into rehab *Quote:* make sure that the treatment center has a competent psychiatrist, medical staff, dietitian, someone that can provide specialized treatment for abuse (sexual, physical, emotional). make sure that the services are comprehensive and highly individualized. and most of all.....make sure the duration of your treatment is sufficient to allow you the time to develop and hone the skills necessary to face life challenges successfully. People have recovered with less...
kevin1st	Re: Trying to get into rehab *Quote:* People have recovered with less... definitely. what i was referring to was improving the person's potential for success. if you compare the rates of recidivism for self-help groups versus outpatient treatment versus comprehensive behavioral health treatment, you will probably find differing rates of success. at least self-help groups and great message boards such as this one don't offer the false sense of hope that some of the "spin-dry" treatment centers do - at least the self-help groups and good message boards don't "pick your pocket". imo, when dealing with a person's life (because that's what we're talking about - human lives) i would rather put them in the greatest possible position for success - where the highest rate of recovery is achieved. i am not tooting the horn for treatment centers - many of them are money grubbing institutions that do a great disservice to persons seeking help. i am an advocate for a person seeking a succesful path to recovery. the least restrictive level of care is great; however, once a person starts crossing certain milestones (i.e. losing their children to the state, stealing from loved ones, losing job after job) it becomes evident that the problem is not just a little boo boo that needs a band-aid.
Sfj	Re: Trying to get into rehab To kevin1st, I'm sorry that you have such a negative attitude toward treatment. May I assure you that there are plenty of good, compassionate, highly skilled, knowledgeable, up-to-date and caring people who work for nearly nothing, little thanks, less recognition and very substandard support from the community. They are unsung. Please read "The Fix" by Michael Massing. (non-fiction) Or spend a few days with me.
Jamie J1979	Re: Trying to get into rehab Go to your local welfare office and apply for state medical aid that pays for drug treatment. I live in Washington and it's really easy to get medical assistance for drug treatment. That's the only way I could pay for treatment. A lot of my friends have gone this route as well. Go for it! Let us know how things go. Welfare offices are usually called Department of Social and Health Services. Good luck!
michelle inwa	Re: Trying to get into rehab My son (age 25) also went through DSHS in Washington to be accepted into rehab (free of charge) I thank God that he is doing very well there so far. He was admitted for a 28 day program, but is trying to be accepted into the 6 mos. program which includes a half-way house type situation. I believe, as the others have said, that the help is usually available, but you have to seek it out.